It’s like Kelly Clarkson all over again. A super old Justin Bieber interview is making the rounds and atheists are having a friggin’ field day eviscerating him because he was confronted with the question of post-rape abortion. He got uncomfortable, mumbled he didn’t know and followed up with something like “everything happens for a reason.” Not an uncommon thing to hear from a christian or a 17 year old. I’m so glad that my 17 year old self didn’t have social media because I was a total tool. Not that Bieber is but I certainly was and if you expect a 17 year old christian to say something lovely about abortion, I’m not sure you’re head’s on right. Additionally, telling him he’s an asshole, an idiot, to fuck off, or that he’s just ignorant is not going to help change his mind. It makes YOU look like an idiot, an asshole, and it makes me tell you to fuck off. I just don’t get it. What a way to make yourself feel superior, to pick on Justin Bieber and his “idiot 12 year old fans.” I mean, who should be ashamed here? I’m not leaning towards Bieber. And you can’t criticize the tactics without being labeled a “church of Bieber” member? I mean, this whole thing speaks to such a larger problem within the skeptic/atheist community. I mean, when you’re words have taken someone like me, who is ambivalent about Bieber in the first place and made me defend the kid WITH AN ENTIRE BLOG you fail. You fail at communication, atheism, and being a nice person. So yes, you win, you get to wear the crown of being “better” than Justin Bieber. But at this point, I’d rather hang out with him than you.
For my own sake, here's Phil Plait's DBAD speech...again.
Two of our seven adopted children were conceived through rape. They are wonderful, delightful girls who I believe will make a positive contribution to the world. To think that someone would deny them life - someone would say to a child with a separate heartbeat, separate finger prints, separate brainwaves, separate blood-type, a complete and unique individual, "You can't live because what I do with my body (screw your body) is my business," just blows me away.
ReplyDeleteYou're right, laughing at any 17 year old, Christian or not for not having a fully developed philosophy on the killing of pre born children is ludicrous. But then a lot of things about atheism are ludicrous, illogical and incoherent.
Okay, I'm an atheist, and I'm pro-choice so I disagree with nearly everything you say. My problem is with the method of their communication. No one ever changes minds by name calling or vilifying people. Only through logical conversation can people really begin to hear each other. I think there is much about christianity that is illogical, incoherent and ludicrous. But I don't think all christians are evil or jerks. Just like there are mean atheists there are mean christians, it just so happens that because there are more christians there are more mean christians than mean atheists. Abortion is not killing, fetus' are not "pre born children" they are cells.
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